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03/01/18 09:30 AM #4478    

 

Nancy Rollins (Gantz) (1968)

Good post Steve....I had written a longer email sharing details but it didn't come through...? But, it is a work in progress and I am happy Portland has made it a priority.

03/01/18 09:50 AM #4479    

Monte McCray (1966)

 

The homeless problem has been going on as long as I can rember, As a child I can remember tar paper shacks in northgate and various other places.

In years past they wern,t called homeless, They were called Hobos, Tramps, and Bums.

As years wen,t bye some people finally started to care about their more unfortunate brothern.                                

In the Regan years the government gutted the mental system.

As things got more liberal and acepting drugs and alcahol became more prevolent.

Our society has gotten to a point were this is somewhat acceptableas a disease.

The government will fund almost anything, Give billions to foreign countries and spend anything [ Especialy in California] to protect illegal law breakers from any country[ and I am not talking about dacas] at the cost of the tax payers.

Believe me I have great sympathy for the majority of these people.

Why can,t the government start a program to help these folks? Open closed military bases,rehab the people give drug and alcahol treatment teach them to be self sufficent medical care and such?

Rember some of these folks don,t want help unless it is on their terms and don,t have to put any effort into recieving housing and help


03/01/18 10:33 AM #4480    

Gary Wegener (Wegener) (1966)

An earlier post said "I put the entire responsibility of the numbers, crime and chaos associated with Portlnd’s homeless on "progressive left thinking", even though the current mayor is a conservative."

If this is valid, maybe the writer would share an exhaustive list of cities in "conservative, right thinking" cities where they have solved the problem.  Don't think we need to politicize this topic, but good examples of programs worthy of emulation are always welcome.  

We visit my wife's daughter in the Hawthorn District in Portland, and the homeless problem is a recurring topic of conversation.    A google search of "Portland Homeless Veterans" paints a picture of an ongoing problem, not one solved.  Here is a link to a fact sheet on Veteran Homelessness by the National Coalition for the Homeless.

Want to know more about the homeless vet situation?  sign in for the "Almost Sunrise" showing this weekend.


03/01/18 10:41 AM #4481    

Gary Wegener (Wegener) (1966)

Monte, we even have an alley officially named "Hobo Alley" by Locust and Beamer in Woodland.  And Joanie has childhood memories of hobos coming by their family farm out by CR 25 and 103 in the 50s, asking for food and a place to sleep.  Her mom would generally give them something to eat and let them sleep the night in the barn and they would be off the next day.  Think a big difference now is that we don't treat mental illness like we used to.


03/01/18 11:59 AM #4482    

 

Gail Smith (Maxwell) (1964)

Robert, you wrote:  Gail - unfortunately, you have fallen into the common oversight of the majority of people who post to this web site.... you read other posts based on your own agendas and biases.

First of all, I did miss your word "veterans" and for that I apologize.  

Second, I don't know why you think you have the right to say what you did above.  I have no agendas or biases regarding Portland's homeless problem.  I was just stating what I have seen with my own eyes.  Granted, because I missed your word "veteran" I was talking about the homeless in general.  I have no information on whether Portland has "solved" the veteran problem or not...I certainly hope so but find it a bit hard to believe.

Third, I don't want to get into politics either (I'm kind of surprised that you did, based on other people being banned from the site for issuing the same kinds of inciting words) but I do agree with Gary.  I would like to see some facts and figures for cities run by conservative governments as to the homeless problem and how they compare to cities run by more liberal governments.  I, for one, don't think conversative or liberal has anything to do with the homeless problem in cities.  That is just my opinion (not an agenda or a bias) and not based on anything anyone else has posted.


03/01/18 02:55 PM #4483    

Monte McCray (1966)

Gary that was one of my points about mental illness.But what if a mentally ill person refuses help or to take their meds, what should we do?

Allow them to run amoke or institutionalize them?

I am all for helping people but there is a difference between a poor down and out soul and someone who will not accept help.

What is our responsibility?

 


03/01/18 05:16 PM #4484    

Dan Ree (Ree) (1964)

Not all the so called Homeless are Mental issues......Lets go back to Woodland some few years ago around 1968...when I was on the Police Dept...those found in Freeman Park..were called 'WINO'S ..... and when booked into the Jail on First St...were recorded as ' Transients'....as I continued to Patrol...I encounter many so called Winos...Transient in Dead Cat Alley with their Cheap Wine Bottle in Tow....called ' THUNDER BIRD....WITH A TWIST CAP.....come to find out one was an elite citizen of Woodland from way past time..who witness his family Burned a live in a House fire in Woodland..that sent that man to go to the streets and take on the Cheap Wine..and thus a Transient...another..I found out...after I had a call from dispatch...a man on the Railroad tracks..I went and spotted the man..as I tried to cuff him  for 647 (f) PC..( Drunk in Public)  he put up a fight..Senior officer also said his name and said he was a Veteran Of WW2  and fought in Iwo Jima ...the only way to get him in the back seat of my patrol car was to have the Sgt.say to him..go get the ' Japs '...he went in the back seat....there was another.......by the name of Buck......who obtained wealth from his parents death and blew it on the Wine..the money ran out.......There are many stories of these individuals.....all have a story to be told ...if they wanted to tell it......another played in the Best World Concert Gutiar player event and turned to the streets as a Transient/Wino.......When Lt. Kendelt heard this and ..I brought my Guitar/Amp to the station..we gave him a drink of wine we had stored as evidence to control the DT's he had...he played the Best Version of the song...' MALAGUENA (Spanish piece ....popular among classicall guitarist)..........We all have experience this in the towns we live...From Transient......Winos..Bums.....and Now Homeless..Some with a Mental Problem of sorts.......From  World War 2......they call it Battle Fatigue..time out in Hawaiii...to Stress...and Now PTSD...Yes we as Citizen should have a Voice  and Participation in the assistance...either through donation to the groups that help them or projects...In Bakersfield we have every year..what is called ....a 'Stand Down '...at a location..where every Vet comes..get a hot meal..hair cuts..Free Attorney advise.....and assistance further with their issues...fresh clothing and further Counceling.......WE HAVE A LONG WAYS TO GO........I KNOW THAT PERSONALLY...I LEFT WOODLAND POLICE DEPT....AFTER A SHOOTING WITH A MURDER SUSPECT....THEY CALLED IT..IN LINE OF DUTY STRESS...NOW IT IS PTSD....WITH TIME AND 2 DIVORCES.....TALKING TO OTHERS THAT FACE SAME ISSUES..THINGS ARE OK NOW...............We need to continue assisting the Vets on the streets....after all they answer the call to fight for USA.......It is Know to date...400 WW2 Vets are dying..same with Korea Vets...Lets....help the Vets of Today!!!!!!


03/01/18 11:04 PM #4485    

Monte McCray (1966)

I agree don, but what can we do to help them? Many people have gone trough terrible things in there lifes but at the point these former heroes are a threat to them selves or a whino or a drug addicted person wont accept help or dosen,t want help i ask again what do we do with them? Should we let them jeprodise themselves and others? should we instatutionalize them, should we put them in prision? if they are vetrans were law enforcement or from  many other stress related jobs don,t you think the government should have an obligation to help them or should it be on the average citizen who is already overburdened and scared?


03/02/18 07:00 AM #4486    

Dan Ree (Ree) (1964)

Monte....The Question is What Can the Average Citizen do..or as you phrase it..What can we do.......I can only tell what I see in Bakersfield with the so called Homeless Population....they have volunteers to step up..do a count to see how many out there in Bakersfield......the Homeless Shelter pushes for them to Come to the Shelter for assistance...the City also employed many to pick up trash on the Freeway here...with Cal Trans assistance.....Plus they are getting paid the 8 hours they are out there...I believe $10 an hour....to give them a sense of worth and build up their work Resume....Provide employment work shops.......they have built apartments to have them live the life they want.....but....with all that said..there are some that can not handle being in close areas....or their Brain cells are so gone they do not get along with anyone......Just look at LA...Skid Row...they call it...which has taken up a big chunk of the City...talk to PD Officers...they them self...say that is the most dangerous area to go into...due to Mental attacks against each others and rapes...........it depends on funding available.....right now..as we view this subject.....We have to ask...Is it out of Control..but I see it as get in touch with your City Offcials..Volunteer with food hand outs..and ask the 64,000 question of them what can we do for you.....You will be surprise their response............In a Nut Shell..the Government has many Grants out there...and I see Cities are taking them up on the situation.........The Officials have to want to get grants and yes a place for the many displaced!!!!!!.....To make matters worse...I found out that LA...puts the Homeless they arrest and they are about to be released...on a Greyhound Bus...right to good olde Bakersfield....added problem population!!!!


03/02/18 09:34 AM #4487    

Monte McCray (1966)

Don, I understand what you are saying. I belong to a service orgination.

My question is what do we do with the homeless people who won,t do or accept any of this help and want us or the government to give them everything with no strings attached?


03/02/18 12:04 PM #4488    

Steve March (1964)

In Portland the City & County (Multnomah) joined forces for handling most of the various segments of the homeless population. I'm going to try to attach a link to our report for anyone who wants to get a picture of all the pieces of a system in our area has - the county has a population of 800,000 so a bit bigger than Yolo but smaller than Sacramento.  Link to our interactive report  (might have to copy & paste it): 

https://multco.us/auditor/joint-office-homeless-services-audit

We partner with a lot of non-profits and there are a few other NGOs who have their own initiatives too.


03/02/18 06:15 PM #4489    

Robert Cowing (1965)

Nancy Rollins - it seems the website filled in all the blanks for you about Portland, Oregon's homeless and ensuing problems. Your problems with disappearing text(s) are not, unfortunately, a single or lonely experience. Cause(s)? Unknown, but you lucked out as a newbie being free to experience the discussion and not endure the critics. Hang in there!

There is a lot to cover here so I will not discuss it. Everyone is doing an excellent job, keep it up, even the critics.

Dan, you and Jesus seem to agree: "The poor will always be with you."

Monte and Steve - Ok, so what can we do about it? How do we do about it? Guys, I don't know, but the 3 of you are asking the right questions. Don't stop asking, don't stop listening. I will do my best and pray you do too.

Now, time to tidy up the room a bit: GARY - you quoted - "An earlier post said "I put the entire responsibility of the numbers, crime and chaos associated with Portland's homeless on "progressive left thinking", even though the current mayor is a conservative."        GARY, I said that me, 'Robert Cowing' and it is OK to say that I did.

GARY - you said  "If this is valid, maybe the writer would share an exhaustive list of cities in "conservative, right thinking" cities where they have solved the problem."

I doubt there is an "exhaustive list" of anything except maybe your coverage of the word use "Up". By-the-way, you will never get an exhaustive list from me. Do your own research, your own thinking. You and Gail appear to have been inflicted with the same way of reading posts. Go back reread my post about Portland's veterans and it clearly DOES NOT STATE  "Portland has solved the homeless veteran problem."  It was just ONE simple sentence. My mistake. However, no apology.  More to come later.

Well, that's enough. I don't want to be accused, again, of running my own "personal blog".

 

 


03/02/18 06:51 PM #4490    

 

Don Murdoch (1962)

C'mon folks.  Looks like my '57 Ford has a squeak in the dash again.  No more squeaks, please.


03/02/18 10:38 PM #4491    

Gary Wegener (Wegener) (1966)

I was hoping for some good examples of good solutions.   Homelessness is a tough problem.  It seems to have been studied to death, but no magic bullets.

 


03/03/18 09:02 AM #4492    

 

Nancy Rollins (Gantz) (1968)

Being the eternal optimist that I am...I agree with everyone and especially Robert's last comment about all of us listening to others on solving or proposing solutions that are implemented in cities to address the homeless challenge. Wouldn't it be great if this forum could be an instrument in that solution! No not smoking anything or taking any drugs but I am praying that we can do this!

03/03/18 10:12 AM #4493    

 

Melanie McKinzie-Petersen (Rued) (1967)

We live in a beautiful town on the coast of Oregon. Fact, many do not want to be identified as they have warrants or worse. They are "shoppers". They shop in your home, my home, your neighborhood grocery store and hang out where children play. Some have mental issues and need to be protected, some are "unfortunate circumstances" and there are many Government programs and neighbors to help them. Not everyone wants a "home". If you know of someone that has found themselves homeless for no fault of their own...help them. Take them in if possible. Stay clear of some of the others as they will take you for granted. Not all of them,...so put your thumbs away. Use your instincts. Put lipstick on a pig and it is still a pig.


03/03/18 11:02 AM #4494    

 

Don Gray (1962)

°°° Gary Wegner is asking the right questions. (msg #6044);  Robert Cowing is helping by sorting out points of view(msg #6042).  Donnie Murdoch, don't panic over substantive issues and discussions. Our Class of 1962 should probably contribute more to this forum.  The 1965-1966 classes contribute enormously but don't we slightly older folks have some perspectives that can be useful too? 

 The cliche is "Never discuss religion or politics" and perhaps rightly so, but if we avoid being rude, we CAN have differences of opinion.  Focusing on real world problems like homelessness may help reduce it.  We have homeless people in Fairbanks, Alaska, believe it or not.  At temperatures of -15*F or colder, it can be life-threatening. Many are alcoholic and or opioid addicted. Life can be tough here. Whether the ultimate cause is PTSD, bad parents, their choice or something in their DNA is something people can debate and express opinons about, but the probblem must be addressed by our community.  Our local city police take them indoors to a drunk tank at the jail. We have (or had---fundng cuts here have reduced social services) local and state groups (VA, NAMI, Women in Crisis, etc among an alphabet soup list of potential or actual helpers.  Doing counts. What's the Yoda/Star Wars phrase? "There is only DOING or NOT DOING" (i.e. No such thing as trying to do).. Good Luck.I noticed homeless people in Woodland the last time I visited.     **Don** Class of 1962

 

 


03/03/18 11:17 AM #4495    

 

Gail Smith (Maxwell) (1964)

Don Gray...thank you for this statement:  The cliche is "Never discuss religion or politics" and perhaps rightly so, but if we avoid being rude, we CAN have differences of opinion.

How long have you been in Fairbanks, Alaska?  What kind of work took you there?  My daughter and granddaughter visited there once for a gymnastics camp and they loved it.  They loved everything they saw in Alaska.  It looks like a beautiful place.


03/03/18 01:14 PM #4496    

 

Don Gray (1962)

My wife and I moved to Fairbanks 2 days after our wedding in August 1970.  Have been here ever since: 23 years teaching history/social studies at the high school and 12 years as a stock broker for Dean Witter Morgan Stanley and Wedbush Morgan Securities.(I think all this is on my WHS profile)..It's a lot like Woodland.  Was about the same size in the '70's; both larger now. Both are former goldrush towns: Woodland established in 1853, Fairbanks in 1903.  We can fly non=stop to Seattle in 3 1/2 hours or Anchorage in 45 minutes. Good connections almost anywhere in the world.  Went to Calcutta (now called Kolkata) India last year to my Peace Corps group's 50th reunion.  Only 22 hours via a great circle route from Seattle on Emirates business class using mileage ticket.

I encourage you and all WHS grads to visit Alaska, via Fairbanks.  We're just a 2 hour drive to McKinley/Denali National Park.  Great fishing here (talk to Larry Ellis WHS 1962).  Warm in summer (Joyce Alameda and her husband visited, as did Julie Eis Millstein and her husband).  Thanks for asking.


03/03/18 01:38 PM #4497    

Robert Cowing (1965)

LATEST UPDATE ON NAPA AFTER THE WILDFIRES:

Napa and Sonoma Update 2018: After the Fires - By CHRISTINE SARKIS *, "Food and Drink", February 28, 2018, posted on "Smarter Travel", an online travel guide - https://www.smartertravel.com/2018/02/28/napa-and-sonoma-after-the-fires/?

Beyond the vineyards, the fire-scarred hills are developing a hint of green as winter grass stakes the first claim of renewal after the fires swept through the area in October 2017.

Just months after the seven Wine Country wildfires burned upwards of 100,000 acres, killing more than 40 people and destroying hundreds of homes and businesses, locals in Napa and Sonoma aren’t papering over the tragedy. They’re both claiming these ashes and rising from them. And they’re inviting visitors back to celebrate the strength of the region.

AND - Visitors Return After the Fires

Depending on where your Wine Country adventure takes you in Napa and Sonoma, you may not see the fire scars. Napa’s valley floor and over 90 percent of Sonoma were unaffected. But talk to locals at tasting rooms, restaurants, and hotels, and you’ll hear the chorus of stories—a song celebrating countless individual acts of bravery and kindness. Of neighbors helping neighbors during and after the fires; hotels hosting fire refugees; grape growers and winemakers helping each other save the vital lifeline of the year’s harvest; and even how the moist soil of vineyards acted as fire lines, protecting neighborhoods and towns from the determined path of the fires.

Here’s a look at how Napa and Sonoma were affected by the fires, and how they’re bouncing back with new openings and big events this year.

While the Wine Country fires were devastating for locals, most visitors to Napa are hard-pressed to see signs of the impact. No hotels in Napa County burned down, and the majority of the Valley’s 400-plus wineries resumed operations within days after the fires. The floor of the Napa Valley—where most of the towns, hotels, and wine tasting rooms are clustered—remained almost entirely untouched by damage.

RECENT OPENINGS:  Hotels -  Culinary Institute of America outpost at Copia, the boutique Archer Hotel brings elegant new rooms; a soon-to-launch rooftop bar, spa, and ledge pool; and a destination restaurant by celebrity chef Charlie Palmer. Nearby, the River Terrace Inn added eight guest rooms along with a new restaurant, ALBA.

Other recent openings around Napa include Ashes & Diamonds, a winery that stands apart with its eclectic mid-century modern design and eye toward 1960s-style Napa Valley wines; and Compline wine bar and restaurant, which also offers wine classes.

Beyond the Napa city limits, the Valley offers plenty more that’s new. Vintage House, in Yountville, recently debuted 80 guest bungalows tucked into the landscape of The Estate Yountville. In Calistoga, UpValley Inn & Hot Springs has reinvented the space formerly occupied by Comfort Inn Calistoga. The renovation will extend to the hotel’s hot springs mineral pool and courtyards in the coming months.

Sonoma After the Fires

Drive along Highway 101 through Santa Rosa and you’ll see signs of the fires’ path of destruction. But more than 90 percent of the county was left untouched. Although two hotels (the Hilton Sonoma Wine Country and the Fountain Grove Inn) were destroyed, three new hotels have opened and several more properties will open this year.

Only one winery, Paradise Ridge Winery in Santa Rosa, was destroyed by fire, but the winery’s other tasting room in Kenwood is open. Sonoma County reports that more than 425 wineries are currently welcoming visitors after the fires.

Celebrations are in the air in 2018, with anniversaries and festivities around the county. Gundlach Bundschu, the oldest family-owned and -operated winery in California, celebrates 160 years of winemaking; Jack London State Historic Park marks its 55th year; the Sonoma Raceway turns 50, and Santa Rosa’s downtown Wednesday Night Market celebrates 30 years. It’s also a year of new things: In addition to new hotels like The Astro in Santa Rosa, 2018 brings the long-awaited Petaluma Gap American Viticultural Area (AVA), a long-awaited designation recognizing the micro-region’s unique climate.

 * Christine Sarkis recently toured post-fire Napa and Sonoma with Visit Napa Valley and Sonoma County Tourism. Follow Sarkis on Twitter @ChristineSarkis and Instagram @postcartography for more advice about making every vacation the best vacation.Christine Sarkis recently toured post-fire Napa and Sonoma with Visit Napa Valley and Sonoma County Tourism. Follow Sarkis on Twitter @ChristineSarkis and Instagram @postcartography for more advice about making every vacation the best vacation.


03/03/18 03:51 PM #4498    

Tom Barger (1965)

Hey Gary - you’re right about no silver bullets, but there are some partial solutions.  A few years back I went down to the homeless. Camps alonqg the American river with some Salvation Army staff and I was amazed at how many residents the staff knew by name.  They knew who would be soBer and clean for a meal and who would just sleep it off under a tarp.  In tHe Auburn/Roseville area there’s a group called  the Gathering Inn that provides dinner, shelter for a night and breakfast. It’s a group of churches so every night is covered.  The biggest surprise for me was the number of single women with children.  Most of these people do get help and I don’t see them the next month but  there is a never ending list of people needing help.

 


03/04/18 09:18 AM #4499    

Dolores Cabias (Buck) (1965)

I have been following the homeless issues in the Natomas area (Sacramento, American River/Sac River) for some time and am saddened to see so many needy people, particularly women with children.  Fortunately, I do not believe that there are many women with children on the river banks, more men.  From the groups that I have interacted with, I was surprised to find that many of the men on the river are there by choice.  Often they will avail themselves of services, food, clothing, food for their dogs, etc. Some of the men are veterans who are eligible for a variety of medical services. Sadly they often don't bother to use the services.  Too many of the homeless are there by choice and you cannot get them to choose otherwise.

Given that some are there by choice and Sacramento is facing some very serious health issues and personal safety issues along the river banks, I have suggested that bathroom and trash facilities be placed in several locations to encourage washing/bathing and proper trash disposal of trash by the homeless.   If you look along the waterway of the American, you can't miss all the trash hanging off of the tree limbs from high water.  It is disgusting to see.  To make matters worse, I also learned that Sacramento Police officers do patrols in those areas to pick up trash.  Can you beat that!!!!  There are volunteers who regularly go out and pile trash on the road side for the City trash trucks to pick up.

If this is the life some choose to live, I wished they would at least be considerate of those who live around them in the community and make some effort to manage their trash and bathroom use (without facilities).  The old saying, "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink.," I am specially concerned with the disease/bacteria in the river water that can make people very sick.  Even though this information has been posted for public information at the public beaches just down from the homeless area, some people still choose to swim/play in the contaminated waters.  The City should post more signs but best of all, close the beaches to public use for their physical/medical safety.

Is this a solvable problem????? 

 


03/04/18 10:27 AM #4500    

Gary Wegener (Wegener) (1966)

Saw the movie Almost Sunrise yesterday, and highly recommend it for understanding more about PTSD. It is  showing at the Davis Veterans Memorial Center Theater, 203 East 14th Street at 10:30 and 1:30 today, then it is gone.  You can google it to get more info.  There is a Q&A with one of the hikers, Anthony, and the director, Michael, at 12"30.  Free, and an experience you won't likely forget.  (It is free)

Freedom isn't free, and the price continues to be born by the soldier, sailor, airman or marine, and their loved ones, long after they come home. This movie is about two Iraq/Afghanistan vets, and their significant others, and their struggles to cope.

Time is short if you want to attend.  I would say just show up, and stay if it resonates with you.  Today is the last scheduled showing in the area, to my knowledge.


03/04/18 11:16 AM #4501    

Marilyn Millsap (Thompson) (1961)

There is a lengthy 4 page story in today's New York Times (March 4) about the downward spiral of a young woman.  She graduated from Williams College, showed great promise, was hugely successful for several years and slowly descended into mental illness and spent many years homeless on the streets of NY city where she finally died.  Her life was documented by a reporter who investigated her childhood, spoke to many teachers and friends and to all the people who tried to help her over the years.  She was probably schizophrenic but rejected all efforts to help her and all the resources of NYC were to no avail.  Homelessness has many causes but unless you are prepared to incarcerate recalcitrant folks you cannot solve their problems.  However, a person's insistance on living on the riverbank or on the streets does not cancel other citizen's rights to a clean, safe environment and should not be tolerated.  Also, children should never be allowed to continue in a homeless situation no matter their parent's mental, financial or philosophical state.  We owe them a better childhood.   I support police efforts to forcibly remove homeless who are polluting, trashing, degrading their (and our) environment.  It is a situation with no good solutions since we have chosen to respect the "civil rights" of some citizens over others.


03/04/18 12:25 PM #4502    

Brenda Kay Kendall (Wing) (1967)

Dan Ree. Thank you for sharing the “guitar” story in which my dad played a part. I shared it with his great grandson last night and he said his papa had shared this story with him when he (my grandson Chase) started playing guitar, but he loved hearing it from you. Police have such a stressful vocation and such stories relate to why they selected that career. Dad had a massive coronary at 48 (so young!) shortly after the shooting inside the WPD (a day I know you and others will never forget). But he survived and lived until mid 2016.  Thank God! On a side note, my grandson is restoring a 1953 Hudson he hauled from Washington in honor of my dad.  I have photos of my dad standing in front of the Hudson that was his all time favorite car. Dad would be so proud.


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