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Robert Cowing (1965)
“CALEXIT” is also called “YesCalifornia”, “Independence California” and “Relaunch California”.
‘It’s time for a divorce’: Calexit supporters relaunch California, and also a new edition to breaking up California call “NewCalifornia”.
A number of you on this web site see the growing dissatisfaction with the state of California that is currently being expressed as dividing the state as “silly”. A gentle “ad-hominem” (hate-speech) for sure, but one never the less.
Ever wonder why this rebellion continues to surface with more and more ferocity each year? Just silliness? Or is there more “that meets the eye” or in your case(s) your brain(s)?
Democrats (progressives, Marxist-socialists) who are the socially and politically mentally ill, and Republicans (conservatives) who are the stupid and most politically ignorant, seem to agree, at least to some of the solutions for the ever growing problems of the bureaucratic tyrannical and incompetent led California, County and City governments.
Read on . . . I am sure there will be more to come in the coming months and few years ahead. Something to think about, especially those issues that Dems and Rebubs seem to agree: Don’t forget about your grandchildren . . .
BY ALEXEI KOSEFF akoseff@sacbee.com February 14, 2018 05:45 AM
“The election of President Donald Trump in 2016 had a lot of unhappy Californians considering the highly unlikely possibility of seceding.
An organization called “Yes California” even filed an initiative last year to hold a statewide special election asking voters if they wanted to form their own country – though the leaders ultimately abandoned their signature-gathering effort because of negative attention surrounding the motivations of campaign founder Louis Marinelli, who was living in Russia at the time.”
ROBERT: Think of it . . . all those federal taxes going into state coffers instead of the black finance holes of the Feds! The wonder of it all.
“Now “Calexit,” as they dubbed the proposal, is back. And so is Marinelli, who moved home to California this week to help relaunch their crusade.
“I enjoyed my life in Russia,” Marinelli said in an interview, “but something I care deeply about is California independence, and I was disappointed it wasn’t picking up the steam I felt it should have.”
If the current Calexit measure gets enough signatures to qualify, it would result in a special election in 2021 to ask California voters whether the state should become an independent country. The backers have until mid-October to get almost 366,000 signatures of registered voters to qualify it for the ballot.
Long-shot effort
However, some analysts suggest the secession effort has a long shot passing. A Berkeley IGS Poll released in March 2017 found Californians oppose independence from the U.S. by more than 2-to-1.
"They'll be a lot of notoriety, there will be a lot of publicity but I think in practical terms it's going to fizzle out," said Seth Kaplowitz, a finance lecturer at San Diego State University. "It would be ridiculous to secede from the union. The only person who would probably be happy about that is probably Donald Trump."
There have been more than 200 attempts throughout California's history to split it up the state.
Some argue that California, the sixth-largest economy in the world, already has essentially acted like a separate country by signing agreements, or memorandums of understanding, with nations on issues as well as climate change.
For example, Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown signed an agreement last year to work with China to fight climate change. That move came a week after Trump announced his intention for the U.S. to withdraw from the Paris climate accord.
California's state leaders also have taken a different view from the Trump administration when it comes to issues including offshore oil drilling, undocumented immigration, health care, federal lands.
'War' with the Trump administration
Earlier this month, the Trump administration filed a lawsuit against California's so-called sanctuary state laws aimed at protecting undocumented immigrants. In response, Brown said, "This is basically going to war against the state of California, the engine of the American economy."
Trump reviews border wall prototypes in California Trump reviews border wall prototypes in California
CNBC - Tue, 13 March 2018
“More than 30 lawsuits have been filed between California and the federal government since Trump was sworn into office in January 2017. Trump, who has called California "out of control," sought to cut law enforcement funds over the sanctuary policies in the state last year but a court ruled against the administration.”
Don’t forget about the bullet train to nowhere that is running into untold billions as each day passes by, yet to be completed.
Getting shortchanged $
“Regardless, Evans contends that Californians don't get their fair share of federal spending for the money paid by taxpayers in the Golden State. Figures from the conservative Tax Foundation show California got back an estimated 78 cents on each dollar paid in 2005 to the federal government while Alabama received $1.66 and Kentucky got $1.51.
Evans maintains that if California were an independent nation, it could eliminate bureaucracy by half and cut overall taxes for businesses and individuals.
Kaplowitz doesn't buy the argument that an independent California would necessarily help business.
"Everybody is leaving California because they're overtaxed by the state," he said. "Businesses are leaving, people are moving to Washington state and Texas and the other states that don't have [an] income tax."
Splitting California in three – SEE MY Previous Post about billionaire Tim Draper.
“Meantime, there's also a measure backed by Silicon Valley billionaire Tim Draper to split California into three separate states.”
Creating a 'New California' -Jeff Daniels| @jeffdanielsca Published Tue, 24 April 2018, CNBC
"Calexit is left — we are progressive, and that's why we don't like Trump," said Marcus Ruiz Evans, one of the leaders of the Yes Californiacampaign seeking California independence. "But there are some very hardcore Republican concepts to Calexit, including the group saying don't waste our tax money."
“At the same time, there's a "New California" conservative movement that seeks to carve out rural counties into the 51st state. But this isn't a ballot initiative. The group is lining up support in counties and then hopes to take it to the Legislature and then Congress.
So far, the group claims to have at least 38 of the state's 58 counties.
"People are really disenchanted with what they're seeing in Sacramento," said Paul Preston, vice chair of the New California movement.”
ROBERT: Does anyone have an “exhaustive” list that states why California is the best state in the Union, it used to be, you know, in the 1960’s, even near the best in the world, and why it should remain in the Union and why even if we don’t talk/write about this issue, why we should not at least give it a few minutes of thought? . . . I know, just silly, right?
“He complained that the controversial sanctuary state law along with state over-regulation are just some of the concerns fueling interest in the split.”
"We'll have 49 counties at the end of this," said Preston. "We want this to be a win-win for California and New California."
“But Kaplowitz said having California split into three separate states — or even a 51st state — would be "unruly and chances of it happening any time soon are slim to none."
BUT? . . . it is just “silly” . . . isn’t. “SQUEAK! SQUEAK!”
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David Ross Neilson
