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11/11/23 10:30 AM #7685    

 

Tom Stewart (1969)

Craig Mayfield....take a gander back and see how long it has been since I made peep in this group.  It is so long ago I can't remember if it even had anything to do with religion or politics.  But maybe, just maybe some of us learn from our past.  I think everyone knows what and who I am, at a very surface level, so I don't need to continue to educate this group about my life and beliefs.


11/11/23 10:34 AM #7686    

 

Gary Wegener (1966)

WHS60s veterans, as listed in the site.   Kind of a long list, but God bless them all.  Note the "KIA" after 10 of the names, those are the WHS classmates that were killed in action in Vietnam; their names are inscribed on the Vietnam Memorial "the Wall" in Washington, DC (takes a while to load)


11/12/23 06:13 AM #7687    

 

Tom Stewart (1969)

Craig Mayfield.....
I have been a missionary to Ireland for the past 11 years.  The northwest rural areas.  Previously I was a missionary to Mexico, and Gibraltar, a Christian school teacher/principal, and pastor, among other roles.  Also from about 1991 I served as a senior manager for corporations such as Clorox, Reynolds, and Milgard Glass.  I was responsible for organizational development, strategic planning, training and development, and employment law.

I have kept very busy up until now and maybe that is why I haven't been posting in this group regularly.  I am certain I have very opposing views from the majority of people here, but that is not an issue.  If we are discussing things conducive to the purpose of this group there seems to be no disagreement.  The vast majority of the people here are just good, stable, intelligent individuals who graduated from Woodland High.  How could they be other then that....LOL!

This is NOT a courtroom so you can play nice here.  I don't think anyone here is the opposing counsel.
 


11/12/23 08:03 AM #7688    

Bernard Rocksvold (1965)

Amazing, to me, to learn that Don Murdoch has been banned from posting on this site for "baiting Craig Mayfield".

Just wondering if the following rules apply to everyone? 

"Abuse includes but is not limited to personal attacks, offensive, demeaning, excessive or nonsensical posts, badgering, foul language, etc.  It is not a place to disparage others, especially deceased classmates.  Posting involving politics or religion are prohibited as they typically and quickly become offensive/demeaning." 


11/13/23 03:47 AM #7689    

 

Tom Stewart (1969)

I have a question for anyone who would like to answer.  Everyone in this group remembers the 50s pretty well, and some remember the late 40s, and now here we are in 2023.  Over the many decades that have passed there have been enormous changes in culture, laws, morals, ethics, politics, nations, etc...
It is likely many of us look back on previous decades with some nostalgia concerning the way we lived and the culture we lived in.  One would think that the world has advanced with all of the science, technology, and conveniences we have available to us.

So, setting aside politics, do you think that overall humanity is in a better place than it was in the 50s, 60s, 70s etc....? Do we have a better quality of life?  Are our families closer and do we have better relationships?  It is my belief we use our finances primarily to attain a happier and better life.  Have we acheived this?  Not just as individuals, but as a city, county, state, nation and world?

I often think my great grandmother, my favorite relative, moved from Iowa to Woodland as a young girl in a covered wagon.  She also saw rockets launched into space during her lifetime.  That is a lot of change, but think about the time between when she died in 1966 and now, how much has changed, and has it been for the better.  This wonderful lady told me one time that they thought the invention of the telephone damaged society because previous to the telephone people "called" on their neighbors, family, and friends personally, instead of phoning.  Now we have people "texting" each other in the same house, and many avoid actually speaking to anyone and rely almost exclusively on texting. So here we are, are we better?
 


11/13/23 05:55 AM #7690    

Janice Bell (Killian) (1966)

Tom. We have increased our knowledge, but not the wisdom to apply that knowledge in our lives. We no longer seem to have true community, depending on one another. Many people have become disillusioned with and have rejected the "norms" many of us grew up with. I see more hatred and chaos, but remind myself that this is really nothing new; we hear about it more because of media outlets. Many of our young people have lost all hope and turn to drugs and/or suicide. We, as the older generation, need to display hope and encourage those around us who have no hope. As a Christian, I believe the example of Jesus is worth following.

On another note, one of my fun memories is the musical plays the drama department put on in 1965 and 1966. Anyone else remember? We even recorded the music for "Leave it to Jane." I still have the record.

11/13/23 09:59 AM #7691    

 

Tom Stewart (1969)

Craig,      
I think you may have misread the memo. To my knowledge none of those here were on a wagon train. Most were raised in a "happy days" type culture with cruising, more simplicity, and possibly shared common family values.   
It is likely all here had indoor plumbing. Actually I can remember having an outhouse on our farm in Iowa in the 50s. I guess it all depends on what criteria each person uses to measure the quality of life. I use joy, peace, love, family, and friends.

 

 

 


11/13/23 01:22 PM #7692    

 

Linda Lopez (1967)

Thanks Tom for keeping us in a positive motion. Our individual environments show if we have the joy and peace needed to live positive. Our families are vital to help us grow in character.
All our choices made in life determine our out come. I see now as the best time in my life and my past has helped mold who I am today.
I have all I ever really wanted and more. I am where I want to be and living each day with great appreciation. My glass is full and running over.

11/14/23 08:52 PM #7693    

 

Steve Butler (1969)

I think about that sort of thing quite a bit. Working on the same farm I grew up on has a lot of built in reminders about the good old days. The men I grew up around were quite skilled in many areas, mechanics, fabrication, plumbing, carpentry, and many other facets of life on a farm, thirty miles from town. What I remember about many of them was their personalities and the pride and joy they felt doing in something well. Those feelings seem a lot rarer among the men I work with today. I am happier now, I enjoy the modern equipment and the confidence that experience has given me. I wonder whether the young men and women really appreciate the easier life we all know now. 

 


11/15/23 04:44 AM #7694    

 

Tom Stewart (1969)

FLIPPIN' ROCKS

In the past decade so many things have happened and so many issues have presented themselves to us.  Many of these things are "political" and I want to try to avoid that quagmire, but when many of these events happen I view them like rocks that have been flipped. Each of us have a different base of morals, ethics, values, and viewpoint.  I am talking about that BASE or FOUNDATION of our lives which we often don't see on the outward and don't realize it is there.  That is where the rock flippin' comes in, it reveals that foundation.

If you have ever walked along a river and flipped a rock and underneath was a whole ecosystem of shiny black creatures that quickly scramble for the darkness of another rock.  They hate the exposure to light!  Well, to make an analogy, we have our social rocks flipped on an ever increasing frequency these days.

When America got involved in the Vietnam war we saw people taking drastic positions, some fleeing the country, and others protesting on the campuses.  The war revealed a bit of what was in people.  We had the women's rights movement and abortion issue which was another rock flipped that uncovered the foundation of beliefs that were lying dormant in our friends and relatives, and more divisions arose.  Then there was the movements about race and sexual orientation, followed by same sex marriage, LGBTQIA, transgender conversions, men in women's sports, drag queens reading to elementary students, and now the Israel/Hamas conflict.  Each of these events are like a rock being flipped and something in each of us reacts one way or another.

What is the point?  I miss the times when I was a bit more ignorant and life was more simple.  My worst offenses were talking in class, putting gum in a girls hair, or skipping school.  I had no knowledge of all the things we see today.  I looked forward with great anticipation to the the State and County fair, parades, football games, going to movies, and having fun with my friends.

Covid was a huge rock to be flipped here.  No one in America had any experience approaching how bad it got in Ireland.  The government took over the entire culture with the support of the national police force known as the Garda.  Masks and social distancing were mandated, most businesses were closed so you couldn't get your hair cut, buy clothes or shoes, go to the movies, attend weddings or funerals, have friends or relatives to your house, or travel more than 5 kilometers from your house.  The churches were all closed, and as they reopened they were limited on attendance, had to wear masks, and weren't allowed to sing. The schools were all closed and most people were put out of work.  The garda would have road blocks at round abouts everywhere and stop everyone every day.  They would ask where you lived, where you were going, and why you were going there.  Then they would arbitrarily decide if they would let you through.  Why am I including this?  Because it revealed the hearts of people.  Some people actually became informants if their neighbors were disobeying the government mandates.  The garda became just like the brown shirts of Nazi Germany and most of the ordinances they enforced were actually illegal and never passed officially by government.  It was the first time in my life I actually understood how Hitler accomplished all the did and how he was able to get a nation to turn against one segment of their population. We had the vaccinated vs the unvaccinated, and you needed a covid passport to eat inside a restaurant, otherwise you had to eat outside, often in the rain.  A division quickly arose between people over masks, vaccinations, and other issues.  We were at level 4 or 5 for nearly two years.

Too many rocks today....


11/15/23 09:46 AM #7695    

 

Joel Childers (1966)

There is a great line from a good old song, Against The Wind"  that is apropos: Wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then. Ah, sweet innocence of youth.


11/15/23 10:57 AM #7696    

 

Joan Richter (Lucchesi) (1960)

I believe we were the luckiest generation ever and sadly there will never be another like it.


11/17/23 10:36 AM #7697    

 

Theresa Eve (1964)

Happy Fall and Thanksgiving to all.  Think only the best! 


11/19/23 04:05 PM #7698    

Greg Kareofelas (1962)

These images are from a Woodland Chamber of Commerce book from 1957. They are businesses that we should all remember. There will be friends, relatives, neighbors, places we worked and places we bought stuff from, so many memories from our time in Woodland. The book has 72 pages, so I will have plenty of material to post! (Thanks to Nita Keehn for letting me scan this book!!) Just because we had so many memories of this place, I decided to lead off with it


11/20/23 08:22 AM #7699    

Marilyn Millsap (Thompson) (1961)

Several friends and I made a list recently of all the downtown businesses which have disappeared since we were kids.  We came up with over a hundred.  


11/20/23 10:49 AM #7700    

Anna Lopez (Northam) (1963)

Matroni Heard was one of the best lumber co. Mr. Matroni's grandson I believe has some land outside of Esparto where he grows vegatables and sells them.  The tomatoes are fantastic bell peppers, cukecumbers etc. Super nice family.


11/20/23 01:54 PM #7701    

 

Joel Childers (1966)

I walked past Matroni Heard Lumber Co. to the train tracks countless times with my brother Brian just before dinner time. The conductor on the early evening train would throw rolled up comic books to us kids. What a great guy. He'd probably be fired and sent to jail if he tried that today.

Thank you GREG KAREOFELAS for the picture of Matroni's (and any future photos of old Woodland that you may post.) As far as I'm concerned, you understand and have the real spirit of this message forum. 


11/20/23 05:50 PM #7702    

Frances Handley (Jones) (1964)

tYes, Greg! Keep the pictures & stories coming! You've definitely got the spirit! It will be good to see all the old places & stories about them. It's all inter-connected and we're a part of this history no matter where we've gone and what we're doing. Each story and picture brings those times back to our lives . How great to be there again if only for a little while. 

Each of us has our own family history story and it's interesting to hear whether you're Woodland born or came later . We all wound up together and share all those old times.

 

 


 

 

 


11/20/23 07:44 PM #7703    

Greg Kareofelas (1962)

This image brought back many memories to me! Remember the horror pix of some poor little kid in an Iron Lung. Getting a Polio shot and banishing those polio fears! I think Dr Bauer had a Health Column in the Democrat if I remember correctly. Someome should recognize the Music Students. All of these photos are from that 1957 Book on Woodland


11/20/23 07:46 PM #7704    

Greg Kareofelas (1962)

Thanks everyone for the nice remarks and comments. If you recognize or know any of the folks in these coming images, tell them :-) It would be nice to get names on some of these


11/20/23 07:49 PM #7705    

Greg Kareofelas (1962)

Thanks Marilyn, I was thinking of scans the ads in the back of our old ILEX books to get names of the old businesses. Smoe of them are going to be featured in the photos I will be posting, but there were names I could remember, that are not in this book, So, post what ever lists you have!!


11/21/23 07:15 AM #7706    

Anne Douglass (Loud) (1964)

Could the names in the above clarinet/trombone picture be Kathy Griffith, ---?----, Joan Leathers, Linda Witham, Dick Coholan?  


11/21/23 08:14 AM #7707    

Walter J. "Wally" Summ (1967)

JOEL .............................

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMtKGzj_mL4


11/21/23 09:40 AM #7708    

 

Joan Richter (Lucchesi) (1960)

Anne Douglas: I think you are right about Kathy Griffith and Joan Leathers. I was thinking it might have been Mike Wright but not sure.

Joel Childers: It was my great uncle who was the conductor on the evening train. He would head back to Sacramento in the evening and blow his horn differently at Gum and 99W (East Street now) to say high to us. We were usually getting ready to sit down to dinner and would all say, 'Hi Uncle Al." His name was Al Bennetts. Thanks for the great reminder.

The photos are great, Greg. Hope you post more.


11/21/23 09:55 AM #7709    

 

Theresa Eve (1964)

Greg:  Tthank you for all the wonderful pictures.  Matronie-Heard Lumber Company (Douglas O. Motroni and Frank Heard) was the company supplier for building our  North McKinley homes.  Many days I would see the trucks delivering the lumber for the three homes,  so well built with deep foundations.  Whoever lives in those homes today have structured excellance.  Carpenters my Uncle Glenn Fessel and my Grandfather Joseph Eve from Indiana.  


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